Catoosa County sheriff candidates debate citizens’ firearms rights
by Dennis Norwood
Jul 17, 2012 | 5557 views | 11 11 comments | 9 9 recommendations | email to a friend | print
Candidates for sheriff are (from left) Jeff Holcomb, Mike Helton, Ben Scott, Larry Black and Gary Sisk. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
Candidates for sheriff are (from left) Jeff Holcomb, Mike Helton, Ben Scott, Larry Black and Gary Sisk. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
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Candidates for clerk of the superior court answer questions during the Chamber of Commerce Election Forum. From left: Daniel McMurry, Michael Caldwell and Tracy Brown. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
Candidates for clerk of the superior court answer questions during the Chamber of Commerce Election Forum. From left: Daniel McMurry, Michael Caldwell and Tracy Brown. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
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School board at-large candidates are incumbent Melvin Edwards (left) and Brent Williams. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
School board at-large candidates are incumbent Melvin Edwards (left) and Brent Williams. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
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District attorney candidates Herbert “Buzz” Franklin and Doug Woodruff engaged in a rather heated exchange. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
District attorney candidates Herbert “Buzz” Franklin and Doug Woodruff engaged in a rather heated exchange. (Catoosa News photo/Dennis Norwood)
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Once again, the debate over citizens’ rights to carry firearms — that is, open vs. concealed — was the hot-button topic for the five men running for Catoosa County sheriff in the July 31 Republican primary.

There are no Democratic candidates on the ballot for sheriff, so the primary election on Tuesday, July 31, will decide the race, with many observers predicting there will be runoff between the two top vote-getters.

Others participating in the forum on July 12 were candidates for clerk of the Superior Court, school board at large, county commission Districts 1 and 3, district attorney for the Lookout Mountain Judicial Circuit and chief magistrate. The Catoosa County Chamber of Commerce election forum was held at The Colonnade.

The question posed to the five sheriff’s candidates was whether they support open and concealed carry of a firearm. Candidate Larry Black began his answer by stating he was “dismayed” at his fellow candidates’ answers to this same question during an earlier debate hosted by the Catoosa County Tea Party.

While the other four candidates — Mike Helton, Jeff Holcomb, Ben Scott and Gary Sisk — all stated they supported the Second Amendment and a citizen's right to bear arms — either openly or concealed — Black went on record as saying that open carry made him uncomfortable.

Holcomb immediately responded by saying that he supported the Second Amendment that gives the right to every citizen to keep and bear arms. He also said that as sheriff he would be sworn to uphold and defend Georgia laws, which guaranteed the right to carry firearms either openly or concealed.

Helton, Scott and Sisk all agreed they would support and defend the Constitution as well on this issue. Helton made a point of calling for more firearms education for people who elected to carry. Sisk said that although he was bound to support the law, open carry did make him uncomfortable.

After the debate Holcomb went on record as saying he did agree with Black that it was tactically impractical to carry openly but it was the law.

Asked if he thought Black was a gun control candidate, as some in the audience had accused in a shouting match with Black, Holcomb said, “On its face it appears that Mr. Black would like to go in that direction.”

Scott told the audience of several hundred people that it is a personal decision and to carry openly comes with a high personal responsibility — that even though it is a constitutional right, they must understand that it does make others uncomfortable.

Black said he would never approach anyone carrying openly nor would he take their gun away from them, saying, “I did not say it was illegal.”

In other issues

· All five candidates agreed that drugs are the biggest challenge to law enforcement. And, it is just not the drugs that are the problem; it is the companion crimes that come with the drugs and drug dealers. Gangs were another issue that came to mind. Sisk said that to really combat the drug problem, we must devise ways to reform the dealers.

· Each candidate pretty much cited his leadership style as leading by example. Scott expanded his answer to say that he was an engaged leader but not a micro-manager, while Sisk stated that he was direct and precise. Black called himself more democratic than autocratic and that he demanded high standards.

· All agreed that their role as sheriff was to be the chief law enforcement officer in the county.

· As to qualifications, Scott cited his 32½ years in law enforcement, seven with the Chattanooga Police Department and the remainder with the DEA, working with multiple agencies. Sisk stated he had a full range of experience and is currently chief deputy at the sheriff's department.

Black told those gathered that he had 35 years of experience, holds a bachelor's degree and had attended the FBI National Academy.

Helton also has attended the FBI National Academy and has an extensive law enforcement career. He also cited his proven record as a magistrate judge and as county manager,

Citing his own degree in management, Holcomb said that it complemented his law enforcement experience. Holcomb also served a senior level police officer in Iraq, training and developing that country's police department. He also said he is the only business owner in the group of five.

· Each candidate agreed that domestic violence was a crime that needed police and outside agency intervention.

In other races

Clerk of superior court

In this race between Tracy Brown, Michael Caldwell and Daniel McMurry, all agreed that a technology upgrade to include internet access to the document on file is necessary.

Brown cited her 18 years working in the office, along with her honesty and integrity as reasons to vote for her.

Caldwell spoke of his leadership experience and having spent the past four years serving with a superior court judge and prior experience as a law office manager.

Saying teachers are leaders, McMurry cited his teaching career as good experience to serve as court clerk. He also said he has a serving spirit and is ready to make changes in the office.

Asked what changes they would make to the office, all agreed that technology was necessary to bring the office up to speed. Caldwell stated a need for additional phone lines, saying that there was only one phone line for eight employees. Brown disputed that fact, saying there were actually two public lines, a fax line and a private line.

McMurry stated he would develop a vision, mission and belief statement.

School board at large

This race is between Melvin Edwards (incumbent) and Brent Williams.

Saying that the county is below the state average in graduation rates, Williams called for a change to the curriculum that would benefit non-traditional students, while Edwards said that resources are already committed to help increase the graduation rate.

As for reforming the schools, Williams cited the need for more technology to replace traditional textbooks, while Edwards said that a recent task force was looking into giving students more options.

Both candidates agreed that there was no need to redistrict Heritage High School at this time.

County commission, District 3

Candidates are incumbent James Cutler and challenger Steven Henry.

Cutler indicated a need to build and maintain county roads as best we can. Henry said roads appear to be in good shape, but there is a need to place emphasis on safety and speeding drivers.

On TSPLOST, Henry said he would not vote for it although he called it a necessary evil. Cutler also said he would not vote for it, that while it would provide some money not all would remain in Catoosa County.

As far as their vision for the county, Cutler cited a need for maintaining a controlled and limited growth. Henry would envision the county growing economically rather than building college campuses.

District attorney

This is another race that is hotly contested and between incumbent Herbert “Buzz” Franklin and challenger Doug Woodruff.

Franklin said, as far as changes to the office, he would grant raises and cost of living hikes, but “other than that I don't really see any need for any change.”

Drawing a round of laughter, Woodruff said, “The first thing I would change is who the DA is!” He said there is a rumor out there that he would fire everybody currently employed in the DA's office, but that simply isn't true. He said, “I feel every change made should be community-centered.”

Franklin told the audience he was “very approachable and very passionate about my job.”

Franklin has served 16 years as the LMJC district attorney and practiced law for 31 years.

Woodruff, who served for 7½ years as an assistant district attorney, is a former law enforcement officer and has practiced law for 16 years. Woodruff said, “I have the ability to stand up rather than walk away from the tough cases.”

Both men agreed that technology is needed in the DA's office.

Chief magistrate

Candidates James Ellis and Brad Palmer both saw a need to restore the image of the magistrate's office, while incumbent Johnny Gass disputed that, saying the problems in his office were already taken care of.

Neither Ellis nor Palmer would add additional employees, while Gass would hire an additional clerk to help with the current workload. None of the three saw a need for another judge.

Gass said he has the experience of serving in the office as well as having law enforcement experience.

Palmer said he has experience serving in courtrooms across the country and Ellis cited his 27 years in law enforcement as “court room experience.”

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maninwhite
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July 22, 2012
There are those that wear a weapon to look [tough]but most permit carry holders are just good honest people that carry on when traveling dont sterotype all who have a permit as wanting to look tough
CCRES40
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July 18, 2012
Um...Dear Bert1934, just to clarify, I did not vote for Obama but how presumtuious of you to assume that. I love it when people assume that because of your beliefs on certain issues that you are automatically aligned with a particuliar political party.

Truth is I don't vote based on party affiliation. I vote for the person I think would do the best job, as it should be.

You also totally did not defend your statement because you got off on the dangers of driving a car instead of how it is OK to bring a gun in full view to events like a child's birthday party where it would clearly not be needed.
CCRES40
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July 17, 2012
Elder777 - dude, seriously what is your deal with mentioning that Ft. Oglethorpe used to be Hargrave? This is the second posting where you've mentioned this. Who cares? It's Fort Oglethorpe now and has been for decades. This is the first time in my 40 years that I've even heard of this. Let it go!

CCRES40
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July 17, 2012
It's a total ego trip. They like to pretend their freakin' Dirty Harry and they can save the women and children if trouble breaks out.

The only time I have ever feared for the safety of me or my children was when I went to a child's birthday party at Buddy Bears and the birthday child's uncle came in wearing a gun in a holster. He was not a law enformcement officer. He just liked to wear it for protection.

I work in Downtown chattanooga and I've been in elevators and parking garages with several "thug" looking individual walking around. I've never felt threatened.

Anybody who feels they need to bring a gun to a child's birthday party in an inflatable play place in Ft. Oglethorpe,GA scares me to death. What is going on in his head!
bert1934
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July 18, 2012
CCRES40:

You want to talk about "ego trip", lets talk about it. The GOVERNMENT and a certain government want to be Sheriff is on an ego trip. You are the type of individual that elected Barack Obama. It is the ego of the GOVERNMENT and the GOVERNMENT controlled media that has sent this country and possibly this county, if Liberal Larry is elected, in the horrible direction we are in. Here you go with the Liberal playbook bringing the children into the mix. My question for you is did you drive in a car with your children to the party? If so did you not feel as threatened with people diving on the road way as you did with uncle Bob's gun on his hip. Do you realize that more children are killed or injured daily in a car accident because of stupid drivers that probably should not have a divers license than by a person with a gun? Maybe we should start taking cars away from people that speed. Government is out of control because they want to control you. You elected Barack and he is the most arrogant,controlling President we have ever had. Stop worrying about normal everyday citizens doing what they have a right to do. You killed your credibility when you said you work around "thug" looking people and don't feel threatened.Define thug!! Who died and made you the book cover judge.
bert1934
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July 18, 2012
Yes I made an error in the spelling of driver and driving. Just wanted to point that out so I would not be judged as illiterate
ngbwr1
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July 17, 2012
Id like to know why people think carrying an open-fire arm is so important, what good does it do? I havent heard a solid reason as to why its so important for people. Guess people just like walking around with a gun on their hip bc they think it makes them tough, or want attention. IMO i have no problem with people having a concealed weapon as long as they arent convited felons and know how to use/carry a weapon safley. I think there are to many people walking around with guns illegally and ignorantly.
bert1934
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July 18, 2012
NGBWR1:

You make absolutley no sense at all. I've seen your comments on this before in other articles concerning this matter and I believe that you are in the hip pocket of the candidate that has such a problem with open carry. Why in the world would you have a problem with open carry and not concealed, this blows my mind. Who cares if people think that it makes them look tough. Why do you liberal types care so much about getting in other peoples business. If you think so many people are walking around with guns illegally, then would you not think that those would be the majority carrying concealed? I can think of many situations where someone carrying a gun in the open deterred crimes from happening, the liberal media just does not want to report that as often.
Moccasin
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July 18, 2012
It is more difficult to conceal a weapon and harder to get to in the event of a life-threatening emergency when you only have seconds to respond with force. You can pretty much safely assume that anyone openly carrying a firearm on their hip is a law abiding citizen, even though you may feel uncomfortable. The constitution gives you the right to bear arms does it not? How can you protect yourself during a crime; call the police? It is too late by then. Hopefully someone was there to identify the suspect that got away AFTER you are dead in the alley.

Gun laws that restrict us from protecting ourselves only harm the law-abider; the criminal does not care and he will conceal his weapon until the time he wants to use it offensively.
MSgtG
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July 17, 2012
"After the debate Holcomb went on record as saying he did agree with Black that it was tactically impractical to carry openly but it was the law."

I wonder if these means our new Sheriff, whoever it is, will require his staff to carry concealed only?

This whole thing is not about the candidates "feelings" or preferences, but whether or not they'll uphold the laws we have in Georgia and not harass our citizens for carrying in any legal manner we wish. The courts have determined that merely carrying a firearm openly is not a reason to stop them just as someone driving a car and doing nothing wrong is not a reason to stop them and ask for a license. In fact, Georgia citizens ar under no obligation to show their Georgia Weapons License at all.

Again, we all have our preferences, and that's a great thing; we're all different. I just want a sheriff who will uphold ALL of our lawful rights.
Elder777
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July 17, 2012
In the City of Hargrave, which existed long before incorporated Fort Oglethorpe in the same location, Citizens may carry any type arms they want. Catoosa County has no jurisdiction and neither does the State of Georgia or U.S. Inc. Subversive activities, such as forbidding the carring of arms, is forbidden in the City of Hargrave. More news in the Hargrave Herald.
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