Freedom From Religion Foundation files complaint against Walker County coach
by Matt Ledger
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A Wisconsin-based group has filed a complaint against a Walker County football coach for violating separation of church and state.

Freedom From Religion Foundation says coach Mark Mariakis has, among other wrongs, allowed churches to prepare meals for his players. The complaint alleges, for example, that Solid Rock Baptist Church in Flintstone held a dinner in which a church leader “preached” to the team.

There are other, equally serious, violations, said Andrew Seidel with the foundation, which consists of “atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, heretics and nonbelievers,” according to its website.

Seidel, an atheist, said there are allegations that Mariakis, who participates in the Fellowship of Christian Athletes, prayed with his team, used Bible verses in motivational speeches and on team shirts, and held Christian football camps during summer break.

“I do have reservations about (Mariakis’) ability to keep his religion out of his job,” Seidel said. “He seems to be very proud that he mixes football and God, which would be fine if he were at a private Christian school. But as a public high school coach, that’s unconstitutional.”

See Facebook page in support of coach Mariakis.

Seidel said the foundation filed the complaint Tuesday, Aug. 21, with Walker County school administrators. The complaint originated in late July from someone involved with Ridgeland High’s football program, he said.

Seidel declined to say who filed the initial complaint, in order to protect the person from possible retributions from the public.

Walker County school superintendent Damon Raines said school officials are reviewing the complaint.

“Our first step is to look at the allegations and then begin to look into it in the manner of which we should,” Raines said. “We are getting more information that gives us plenty to review and then we will work through the process.”

Seidel posed a scenario in which coach Mariakis is Moslem, taking the players to a mosque for team dinners. He said that, in such a situation, there would be significant public outcry against the coach.

Regarding the summer camps, Seidel said, “You are pressured to go to that (Christian football) camp if you want to play. You are looked down upon if you don’t go to that camp.”

“Playing time should strictly be based on merit, not on religious conviction,” he said.

He said the foundation is seeking “immediate action to stop any and all violations of the First Amendment.”

“The purpose is to protect the constitutional principle of separation between church and state,” Seidel wrote in the complaint.

At the crux of the complaint is the First Amendment violation that occurs when faculty members inject religion into their professional roles as an educator or even as a coach, Seidel said. The foundation isn’t seeking to stop students from practicing their religion, only to end the perceived pushing of a particular religion by an employee, he said.

“We’re not trying to cause this school district financial ruin,” Seidel said. “We just want the Constitution to be followed and we think that everybody should want that.”

All policies regarding prayer are set locally, not by the Georgia Department of Education, according to Matt Cardoza, director of communications at GDOE.

Who do you side with?


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Gatorfan
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August 28, 2012
The kids are there to play football not to pray to God or to learn the teachings of Jesus, which some may not even believe in. Save the preaching for the church! I have no problem with religious people believing in a false God, just don't shove it down my kids face when all he wants to do is play football. Then you expect the kids that aren't religious to feel like an outcast while others pray. It's football, it's a TEAM sport! We shouldn't be excluding anyone. Keep the damn praying to yourself!
sandman30728
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August 25, 2012
I'm going to be BRUTALLY honest in regards to this whole mess. I think the user vocalwhennecessary hit the nail on the head with the term "ambulance chaser". Due to the fact that I just don't see someone from the relatively small area of Rossville,Georgia in which Ridgeland High School is located in; contacting an organization that's located 754.41 miles away and having them (Freedom From Religion Foundation )to contact the Walker County Board of Education Super Intendent when whomever sent this "complaint letter" could have easily picked up the same ink pen and paper or typed out or even sent an e-mail to the Walker County Super Intendent themselves without involving this "Organization"....really? Ok,if I have an issue with another Governing body such as the tax office ,county sheriff department, etc who would I contact? Them or someone else halfway across the country ? Think about it.......these claims are ridiculous.The Freedom From Religion Foundation is just making outlandish lies about a player or parent complaining and they know it.
YourMileageMayVary
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August 25, 2012
If you want to let everyone know there's illegal activity going on, do you go to people who might be in on it? No, you bring in those with the law on their side and the capability to remedy the problem. You bring in the big guns who will keep you anonymous because you know that someone in your city with that small town mentality will turn you into a pariah if they find out who you are. Depending on how long this has been going on, odds are some local yokel knows he's doing this and is playing the hear,see,say-no-evil game.

Also, the last I noticed, most lawyers only work for you if you ask them to and they take the case, be it FFRF or otherwise.
coachsparky
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August 26, 2012
Well to be BRUTALLY Honest, you comment is pretty silly given the fact that a local member of the football program went seeking help from the FFRF. You look really stupid lying about it and trying to claim they did not. Stop making an ass of yourself.
vocalwhennecessary
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August 25, 2012
This "Siedel" character is amazing. So is the one who filed the complaint. If you don't want to go to the football camp, just refuse to go. Oh, sorry. You care what other people think about you. I stopped caring about that a long time ago. It does no good. The day I start caring about what morons think about me is the day I cash it in. As Ron White would put it, "You can't fix stupid". Siedel is SO concerned about the constitution that he's bringing a school like Ridgeland to the forefront. Siedel, check this out. You're no better than the crooks in Washington, all the way to the top, who shred the constitution each and every day that goes by, as a matter of habit. You care no more about the constitution than what you scrape off the bottom of your shoe at the end of the day. You want publicity, slick? You got it. Now, go crawl back under the rock you came out from under. Get your publicity someplace else and at someone else's expense. I do not know Coach Mark Mariakis personally, nor have we ever met, but I admire what he stands for and how he conducts himself in the face of critics who simply want something to complain about. Unsolicited religion is one thing, if you're being forced to listen to it. The football player's legs work or they probably wouldn't have gone out for the team in the first place. I'm sure they were all able to walk away if they didn't want to hear what was being said.

“We’re not trying to cause this school district financial ruin,” Seidel said. “We just want the Constitution to be followed and we think that everybody should want that.”

Seidel, you're messing with people you don't know and getting a lot of publicity out of it. Let me tell you something about the area of the state you're messing with. We've got a low tolerance for stupidity. This complaint, for the lack of a more meaningful word, is STUPID. And your organization just HAPPENED to pick it up? You're nothing more than an ambulance chaser, Siedel.

“I do have reservations about (Mariakis’) ability to keep his religion out of his job,” Seidel said. “He seems to be very proud that he mixes football and God, which would be fine if he were at a private Christian school. But as a public high school coach, that’s unconstitutional.”

Seidel, in summation, nobody around here really CARES about what you or those like you have reservations about. Tell you what. Bring your self-serving butt down to Ridgeland High School and tell one of the football players that he can't participate in a prayer before the game. Be careful. He'll already be dressed out when you tell him that. The atheists on the team have an opportunity to wait outside if they think they may be offended. Better yet, invite 'em all over to your house for a scrimmage game. I'm sure you'll co-exist just fine.

Our leaders in Washington are using our Constitution as toilet paper every day. Pretty soon we'll be down to nothing and will have to listen to people like you. That, sir, will be a sad day.

Grow up, Seidel. Grow up.

coachsparky
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August 25, 2012
Wow vocalwhennecessary. If people from the area actually have a low tolerance for STUPID then you must not get along to well out there because you displayed a lot of STUPID in this post. Seidel and the Freedom From Religion Foundation were simply supporting one of the members who filed a complaint because the coach is clearly violating the constitution guaranteed seperation of church and state.
coachsparky
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August 25, 2012
Grow up yourself vocalwhennecessary. Seidel is supporting one of the local football program participants who filed a complaint. The only thing STUPID is the fact that the program would think it could so blatantly violate the constitutional seperation of church and state and get away with it.
YourMileageMayVary
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August 25, 2012
Dehumanize the person seeking to uphold the U.S. Constitution -check

Side with the violator of the U.S. Constitution -check

Theaten violence on the person seeking to uphold the U.S. Constitution if he shows at game where violations are happening -check

Justify shredding of U.S. Constitution because our leaders are doing it -check

So, when did you abandon America and join the Taliban religious extremists?
Totalcontrol
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August 24, 2012
These people will have all eternity to have "Freedom from religion". I don't see where anyone of the kids have been made to do this. I guess they would rather see them drinking and partying.
coachsparky
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August 24, 2012
Thanks to Freedom From Religion Foundation for standing up for our constitutional right not to have public employees evangelizing our children. The coach is clearly wrong and needs to stop.
concernedcitizen5577
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August 24, 2012
It's doubtful that the coach made anyone go to the camp or eat at the church. If a parent was against it, then they probably wouldn't allow the child go. I'm not a parent, but I'm very concerned with how society is telling parents what they should and shouldn't do. I'm also extremely concerned with how gov. and other organizations are almost forcing Christians "to shut up and sit down." This Freedom From Religion group has no right coming here and interfering in something that is none of their business. There wasn't even a problem until they showed up, and now they are everywhere. They would rather see religion go away to make themselves more comfortable in their sin than let Christianity do what it's suppose to do, i.e. show love and compassion to others, hold true to what's right and wrong (which our country really needs now), and lead people to a better understanding of God. Interestingly, this article was in the TimesFreePress this week. It spoke of how religious states are more giving and how Chattanooga was one of the top giving cities. http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2012/aug/23/chattanooga-high-on-giving-list-tennessee/ Seems to me that the Freedom From Religion group would rather tear down institutions that are helping people than help people themselves. Looking at their website, it looks like all they do is spout their claims and demand we all follow suit or be sued.
TheSeer
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August 24, 2012
I don't think the problem stems as much from the feeding of the team as from the sermon that went with it. How would you feel as a parent if this coach permitted an Islamic cleric or Buddhist monk to preach to and lead the team in prayers. Also, the coach should not make fun of another faith or favor one religion over another.
catoosarez
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August 24, 2012
If they don't believe (yet)then what is their concern? If they don't believe (yet) then what harm is he doing? His group is made up of "atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, heretics and nonbelievers" yet they feel threatened so are they really "atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, heretics and nonbelievers" or just trouble makers? I think this coach is doing a great thing and reaching these young people. I would prefer for them to be offended for a time and then come to Jesus than this group of "atheists, agnostics, freethinkers, heretics and nonbelievers" get their way and countless young people and possibly their families spend a their after life in torment.
CCRES40
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August 24, 2012
Seidel said. “We just want the Constitution to be followed and we think that everybody should want that.”

There it is folks! Right out of the horses mouth. "We think that everybody should want that". They don't want a religious group telling kids what to think, feel or believe, but it's OK for them to tell everybody what to want!

They don't stop to think that the kids parents know that their kids are being fed by a church, a church a lot of them probably attend, and it should be up to the parents to stop this if they don't like it. I guess this group also believes that the parents are too stupid to know what they want for their kids.

Read more: CatWalkChatt - Walker County football coach flagged by religious group
YourMileageMayVary
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August 24, 2012
So, you mean you don't want to follow the Constitution or you think we shouldn't follow it? That's what I'm seeing from your comment.
Snarky2
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August 23, 2012
Truth is......

Complaint is actually from a jealous employee attempting to create problems for the new superintendent.

Being jealous will not win you any beauty pagents sweetie.

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